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it seems like in modern times, everything has arranging from culture to economics. and of course, political somewheres are considered to be an achievement, to be included, while others are less desired sky. now here's an on this edition of $360.00 view. we're going to discuss a recent list of the top freedom fighters around the world. and if this is an honor which only places a larger target on their back, let's get started. the dan was a journalist and broadcaster from new zealand has just published a list of the 50 biggest freedom fighters all around the world today. now who, who. busy has been cancelled himself included many people who were subjects of cancel culture and came to rise again, fighting for their police. and one of the biggest m s. m. b 's helps in history. i
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was taken off and because of comments towards folks made about the flames throwing life just come in, taisha, avis and tina as my friend making kelly told me you with the 1st full cost in this quote to be cancelled, but not being offensive enough by something of course, this is all personal opinion. no, paul was say it was taken and even in the comments below, his initial post he agrees, is quite subjective. and there are many people he probably could have included. however, one fact remains true from this list. all of these names are from western countries or quote unquote, 1st world countries who are supposedly represent the free world. and as we look at tick tock, bands government's partnering with social media companies to create censorship. this does raise a very important question. has turmoil and politics and the rise of an filter. social media made us less free or more as well. joining us now to discuss our political analyst and write your husband, jamal thomas, tom norton,
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chairman of the american pack and media analyst. why know, welcome all 3 of you, people who i consider to be freedom fighters and should be number 12, and 3 on this list. but i guess the list forgot you guys forgot my name as well. so well, just do what we do best and talk about everybody else line. oh, i got to start with you on this list of a do you believe are fighting currently for freedom? who would you include if you were to make yours? president trump. he wasn't on the front and he was not here anyway. i don't think he was on here was a a while you asked me who was included. yes, he wasn't on the whether he is or not the list as you know what it is, the sad part about it is very quickly a to you and the gentleman, the people who have been mentioned or nothing special. they just had the unmitigated audacity to believe that they could express an opinion or the opinion that might have been not like. and i don't know about you, but i like spice in my food and spice in my commentary. and remember,
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you only take flag when you're over the target. what these people represent were victims of not 1st amendment violation is per se, using our system. but people who were use are targeted by, as by proxies for government. remember, all the social media systems were, are, are there as agents as the look of browse the, as the enforcers of government, their proxy they, are they quash free speech quash up opinion. so the idea that it's mark zuckerberg and base those sitting in their garage as private entrepreneurs is b s. they're active agents of a government that wants to shut you up. and the society that loves the scrum loves the pitch for and towards pre gauge. they loved to shut you down, got e mail huge. they love it because they're a bunch of mean girls and they just loved the crushed people use because they just do well, i think there's also more to the driver if you're wine on a lot of the points,
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right. but i think there's also more to it tomorrow because i think there's a bigger purpose, a bigger narrative, a bit bigger agenda. that's even not even about making money for a lot of these, this. their purpose is they want everybody to be directed into one narrative. and if you don't agree with that narrative, then your voice should be silent. yeah. with, with technology and social media. i mean that's basically what the internet is, right? i mean, whether you had radio with the tv initially you were able to corral people within a very specific bundle. in regards to the point of view and what social media, they basically lost control of a narrative and, and trying to regain control of the narrative. that's when you get a take top band that's when you're getting a pretty pressure on the lot of us. that's when you get into putting pressure on schellenberg. i mean, look at what they did, the art, can you when he was the testimony, i mean a flash to get um he was another one of those people that just will have to be on that list where they were going after. now the issue is the loss control look at their to in the way that media would typically find all that information. and this is the political are trying to read levels, right? i mean, when you're looking at the twitter it list,
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i would love to sing youtube list. i would love to see the facebook list and the pressure that gets put on these companies, but the federal government to either allow or dislike. oh, it goes both parties and the one thing about the 1st is for public and democrats. libertarians very well represented on this list. so tom, i've got ask you, when you look at the number of people on your and the people that are on there, do you have any i dish additions that you think should be highlighted? some of these a freedom fighter, a h, as in certain certain people out there like martin to agree and then add to the list. i mean there's 50 people on the list that will trump was number 6. i think the list was very well rounded for multiple political parties. they get an added people like, uh, what's your name of a former policy, gabbert foster the neighbors and added to the less that they had a very wide variety of both a traditional liberals and conservatives on this list. and the idea that they can see it up and have their freedom of speech as embrace and the 1st amendment. and that's something that i should have should be embraced and thought we need to stop
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fighting wolf versus not log and start talking about the united states constitution again. because if we start doing that, they can realize that it gives us a right to hurt people's feelings, and the freedom of thought is essential for people to be able to move forward in the future. but that's the one thing. you know, i'm going to need this on jermel, jamal. when i look at that list of people's names that are listed, they have back home because they have people behind them. if the individuals that probably don't have a lot of money, probably don't have a team of lawyers by him that you never hear of their names on that side of it. so does it prove the reason why we're talking about these people is they have groups and organizations or you behind them? well yeah, i mean, the random person who, nobody knows, nobody knows for reason that yeah, right. the random person. do you remember when they had the election and the women they kept calling these people russian bots, right. and the one was like, i'm not a rush, but i mean human being that person under normal circumstances, you don't know who that person is. i mean, for all of the sky, you know, hits for the military. so instead of a little idols,
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you do have picked witherspoon one right, who has a particular political opinion that they didn't necessarily like. so it was nobody . good luck with it. right. well, nobody could find it. what is facebook page? no, it. you love us is the richest man on the plan. so we have a freedom fighters, a bit funny, but on some level. yeah, i mean, it almost has been pretty for as long as you're not talking about a lot of us, he's busy and you're doing the 2599. do you know, blue check fee or whatever they have now, right. and right here. good sir. to be a freedom fighter on that one. so why don't i'm going to ask you there are, should you believe though, that there's member that there should members of the major media outlets actually be considered freedom fighters, or they're just doing their job? no, i mean, a fleet of fighters that, that sounds great. i like, i like it, like your terrorist registered or something like that. but here's, here's the thing, which is interesting. oh, i know it's, it's not the thought police. i've always worried about it. so thought, vigilantes,
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it's the, it's the, it's the private citizens. we live in a world, let me say this again. mean girls and people who just loved a shut you up and shut you down. and what we did was, remember, the 1st sort of government is don't let people speak. and we're to find a reason to give them why they are. why are they big show this effects national security is obscene. and now we're into, hey, it's racist is and do some of the it's friends phobic. and then we get into, i love missing information. this information and dad information and then we'll do is we will set up, artificial. i'll put 10 truce policies. truth, a vigil empties who determines you know, whether it's snopes or whatever it is. i'm sorry, that's a truth, that the fact says that some drugs could be who are you and what we do is we are so did. so in love with this machine, it was important to know i'll back off corner know please let me type budget myself
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is let me take pictures of me with my girls. let me take pictures and be with my my, my filters that can be my food. please don't take that away, i'll shut up, i'll be good. and they use this as a condo to shut people up. and remember, the federal government is saying, it's not us. it's not the 1st amendment. my ass is not the 1st amendment there proxies and then they also tell you if you thing for one minute that there are good guys here. god bless you on much, but if you thing, he's a state. if you thing, he doesn't himself know his own brands of censorship. i don't believe you would. one question to tell me one thing that you never want to have ordered on any platform, anywhere. name one thing, one thought, what idea that should never ever be uttered? i can't think of one. you don't like to turn it off. well, that's very open minded of you vinyl to say, just do, you know if you don't like it, go away, but that's not how it exists as world tom, in fact, that you're probably take line or speech right there. if i treat that out, i'll get shadow bands because of the how much truth should does it not also say
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something though about the politicians that like you mentioned, marjorie taylor green, they're all elected. all of them should be fighting for freedom. how sad is it that we have to put the ones that are fighting on a list and the others? what are they doing with our tax payer dollars that they're getting paid? what, what's happening here is what we really need to start doing is like, standing up and encouraging people to be the foot soldiers, us to bring up the proxy portions of what we can to encourage people who practice across united states in their own realm. that's where you have to socially have other groups that are standing up and everybody is at the end of the day and do it for a margin of profit. so as long as you are tracking the base, you can sit there and bring them in. but if you're tractor base where you're talking about actual freedom of speech and it's not, well, i believe that platform will continue to grow a little bit more. i've used twitter probably more since even i lots versus it. no, it's not a st. any of the guys, it more wives and kids, most of us would ever dream house. but when you're there, is this guy on the planet. i guess you can afford to do that. i mean,
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child support is not that big at that point, i guess. but there's a freedom of speech that's there that even he sits there and then can embrace and encourage. and if i, on the platform, most of us and southern say, hey, don't pick out me that's. that's just where the majority of us would go and say, hey, you say whatever you're want, just leave me alone because i'm paying for it as rental rate, instead of 1984, i'm paying for this microphone. and that is probably where these guys, because there are still private organizations can look at them, but they are right that a lot of them are proxy isn't nothing more than a make my phone of the democratic party. and quite frankly, i think i'm fox news or nothing more than a microphone for the r and c. i mean, you probably are using that cable in the back of their mouse moves. and you know, it's coming straight from the german ship and straight from the top to well, with that lovely image in our head right now. even though where you have to that would lead us to what the new are and say, look for, i want to take a break because after we're going to continue this discussion and we're going to also look at why people have to fight for freedom, say, why is that just not
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a given will be back, the russian states never is as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community best ingles, all sense and up to 5 must be the one else calls. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the rush coding and split the ortiz vote net, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube. the
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7th question, did you say steve and twist, which is the let's continue our discussion about the fight for freedom and who are some of the name makers with our panel, political analyst or a host, inter mall, thomas, a tom norton, chairman, as american pack and media analyst vinyl. welcome on this one. let me start with you over this thompson ended when i started the 2nd look at this list. it was composed by dan. one is all interesting to me that was 99.9 percent come from what i consider to be developed countries. does this mean that actually freedom is under
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attack more and those regions which are known for having it or can you not take away something that you've never had? i think that freedom is drastically being attacked in western countries because we have violated the concept of freedom of speech. we violated the 1st amendment we've, we've, we've made judge, jury and executioner of the media. and i mean, if we look around the world, i'm certain, if i dig through stories of and asking nations that are some of them still developing that we've been find true freedom fighters, they're defending, you know, families that are gonna be executed or starving. and i think that do it agree, some of those freedom fighter list is also in bracing our own. you go to an extent that we think that we are extra special, but it is true that freedom is under attack and it was this fashion that freedom is gone. you're the united states is this miraculous experiment. there's not going to be too many other places left to go, and that's what we have to sit there and stand up and truly fight for is restoring
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that freedom of speech. and again, as i said before, is making sure that we encourage people to stand up and be there are freedom fighter, these freedom, a social media platforms of thousands of people got on them and they, their own opinions heard at thousands of people said i'm tired with protecting your pronouns because i have no idea how you feel today is 24 hours has passed and people's opinions can truly change. and we are all standing up and fighting for we believe that i think we can restore and move it back in the other direction. there's millions of millions of americans that believe in individual freedom believe in the 1st amendment that need to stand up and just say what their opinion is. and we'll be able to turn back the clock by just truly being yourselves. tom, i love your optimism line. oh, do you believe the glasses have that have full when it comes to freedom being restored? are we all ready? let the genie out of the bottles? you know, the glass is too large, and by the way, i love your mixed metaphors and the toothpaste is already out of the to we don't think of it. and let me know the are the, you know,
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without respect to this article, to the fact of this freedom that these are just people making opinions. let me give you my favorite visit by fabric. you remember awhile back or, or, or in, from time immemorial, every now and then they'll go to college campuses and, and they hate college campuses day. hey, it depends what it is. it depends. i'm not going to go into whether it's the alarm or whether it's a is, or whether it's trump, or whether it's something about israel or against bite. but they loved to go to college camp. and to me i, we thought that was a marketplace of free ideas. i always thought that's where you went and you went to say crazy to whatever. and they'll say that to hate speech. ladies gentlemen, i want to not introduce my platform, my new movement of hash tags. so what if i say something that is hateful? so what hate is protected? speak, you can hate anything you want. you can love it. anything you want. you can say anything you want in my perfect world, so long as you don't ever activate upon that or hurt them. but i don't care whether you hit somebody and love them, hit somebody and hate them, or you hate them because of their race or the way they look at your sexual.
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somewhere along the line, the word hate, hate became a part of our idea that somehow this is pro scribe. so we took these things, go ahead crime. remember that it's not right. we should have a crime course is no love. and i'm going to be penalized for daring to utter a thought which is protected, which i've happened to pair with somebody which is against the law. and what we do is our biggest problem are the idiots in the global north, the ship exit. ok? well, the trade rollers and they never did is not ingle base, and this has not a put our, yes, it's a of course, hash tag. show what, and i want to make people tough and i want to grow. a fix can grow a pair good or bad phone shut up. so what, let them say to bill why just leave. okay, that's the absence of free, but level i got, i got to push back on this at what age does that start? because we talk about college campus, we can say that as an adult. but in middle school elementary school, when you're
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a school, you could only say certain things, certain words, certain parts. when does it start that you can actually have the freedom to say, so what? and you don't have to abide by certain guidelines, adults any time, anything a word to i mean we're not talking about kids. and so we're only adopting a bunch of kids that they're not. i've discuss political ideals right now. and high schools and middle schools, elementary schools, they're not allowed to wear t shirts that say, you know, i love jesus on it or bring a cron distorted actual and it won't listen. that's a different story. there's probably school is owner of the story. and if it's a political class, we should be able to talk about that. but the bottom line is simply, this is not just children. it's people the we know well how many times have you been know why there's some kind of russian problem again, isn't that i guess we even call the potent supporter where you been actually a line, jo barely because you said i don't think this happens. it makes sense how many times a, but i mean, it's the most and the recently i saw american congressman waving a ukrainian. why the, for the congress screaming on their, i mean, you credit,
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i think is what the hell is wrong with it? well, what am i? are you as a lensky head or so i, there's no name for this. i'm an american dammit, i don't like this there. and if that's freedom, and i'm 44 children, we've lost our minds. that's the problem. oh that's, that's definitely we agree on and jermel a lot of it's happening in pop culture. yeah. you're saying it's not just you're expected from the la floor of the house. you know, they're gonna talk about what you're thinking and pop culture right now. whether we're talking about movies in, in music, is that being used as a rebel, as a tool to take away freedom as well. it's definitely been used as a tool to get across the point of view. a star trek, what are my favorite shows, stuff like discovery. they have just destroyed that show. and like you would have seen software cuz already a, what is the type of, you know, all of the different ideas and everything else. all the different morality that's edited to it. and i remember one of the discovery think ahead is like basically correcting somebody when they pronounce their alien like like it at
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a certain point it becomes a bit obama. but because of the business, a political issue, this is less like, i don't like the random american, i don't think the ever rich american who's sitting somewhere is pointing their speech and when they're talking to somebody else. so just having a conversation with somebody else. when you get into a political situation where that becomes a bit different and you have to get the word that line or use something. did you, lenny, yes, but he's right. that to mean look at what they've done with the one who did her part. i mean, she got to and once i arrest me, if you feel that confident about it, just because, you know, i try to protect women spaces or just because, you know, i put out, hey, maybe this biological male should be the other women in the sporting events and they would call that transfer with no i it's, it is gotten very strange. in the old days we used to be able to have the political . but let me think about the 6th leave as of right, some of the stuff they used to say of those fights. and somewhere along the way to get to the point of, it's not just that we can have a conversation,
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but i need to get rid of you. like it's not just disagree with you where i could deal with your narrative and give you a particular point of view. it's, you just need to disappear. and that's, it's franky especially also for media when they could actually do it. uh huh. i mean, you know, like, i like this spreading out, try to get something. i mean, just seems like that's what they basically doing and electronic capacity and they're doing that and i wish somebody people rely on the phone. tom, the other element honestly, i think actually as described as the whole thing, are those that are capitalizing on this fight for freedom. do you think that diminishes the work they're doing? a lot of people on this list and we know make a lot of money just by saying certain things and they throw these fireball items out there and they get lots of clicks and they get lots of dollars that go into the bank accounts because of what they said, do they actually believe it? i think a lot of them don't, they're the army us and i think it's a valid point. i remember back growing up in the eighty's and ninety's. you'd see these a religious, even jealous on there that made it into a business and moved away from my to where they've got it. so yes, and they,
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they turn it into a for profit organization. so some people on the west are doing that. not all of them. there are quite a few people on there that are on there doing it for the right reasons. as i said, it's a pretty solid list. there's no list that's ever going to be made in a 1000000 years. it's a perfectly upsets just like both of us like star trek and both of us would agree that discovery was completely destroyed. it because who cares about pronouns because like some of them are unisex down there from and that was back in the 60 yeah, exactly. yeah. but that started back then in here, but here we are 50 years later and look where we've gotten to a line. oh that's my comment, is that so often we put the focus on like said the pronouns that are we don't praise the ones that are continuing to push for it so therefore they don't even bother to put their next on the lines. do you think that we should be doing a better job the whole course? you know, you mentioned just started tracking by the way, gentlemen, thank you for it. as a star track that drives me crazy or than that,
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but i loved the movie being there, which ones you gartner and peter sellers. and i want to do if i, if, if i ran, let's say youtube, i would take somebody who was certifiably insane. i mean, absolutely end of the story is get your product just out of their mind and i would create a, a platform and i would give them immediately 15000000 views. and immediately within 24 hours, this is going to be the say, just going to be the profit, duplicate be say, you know what? he's right. why? because of numerical validation. you know, many file rejects, you know, many likes you guys because we're now it's really a, it's kind of like a weird meritocracy. it has to do with the numbers and all of the people that have been mentioned on this freedom. federalist, have one thing in common, their numbers, not their words, not, they're not, not the, the, the, the genius of their ideas for the fact of their popularity. it's that number. it's that like, how many times do you ever watch anything? and the 1st thing they tell you was please like this, please follow me please. no, i haven't even heard of what you said yet, please like this. it's like going into
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a restaurant to ask you to tip they asked me and my dry cleaners. the tip of my head, i want to bring my stuff. so what happens is these freedom, 5 years we live in this world of this artificial sense of worth determined by numbers. and we will sit there and say, this guy's crazy. he's got 10000000 view. oh, okay, let me reconsider that. that's where we are at the gene use of this. we're not even listening to what they say. how about somebody who really makes a great point, but has for view or yeah. or and, and, and sits in your bedroom with the messy room who says 1000000 things. nobody cares about her, because she's not worthy of it. give her 10000000 views, 10000000 subs. and now we're talking business instead of the what, what type of marriage is that, that's for a different issue, of course. well, and that's the merit right now, that scares about it. and this is, i will give you with a lot from this because that supposed to be kind of credibility is like line or pointed out. yeah. is happening in the numbers. it's becoming sort of a horse trade. the bigger the numbers means, the more important you are,
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the more truthful truth that you're speaking. that's not true. where does this go from here, though? and by the way, it convinces the person with those numbers, right? gives nice but the most ridiculous things in the world and it's like, well, i have too many views. so i, i thought of, oh, i'm right in the bedroom. um yeah, that's the way it works. right. i mean that's how it works. and youtube over, imagine if i were to deal with that level, where does it go? is an interesting question. i mean, the reality is it does seem to be the slight, with this kind of pushing pull between um, the mechanism of, let's say, like a social media, an internet that allows this kind of expression versus this pull back with this club back of that capability of being able to get that expression, i don't know what that is. i mean the, the rub is, you get a situation where the censorship gets more over or you get a situation with people there about what the nature on that side of it. yeah. so it's unclear is on that well jamal line of tom norton. thank you so much for joining me also. thank you for not saying be me up. scottie, when you started talking about star trek, i sort of happy to stay and break out from my childhood,
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from what they used to call me. so i think all 3 of you for joining me and having the freedom to discuss. oh yes, i know. i'll see very good. all right back it you guys. thank you to you know, sadly a list which identifies specific individuals who are publicly fighting. not only should be considered an honor, but also we can sort of warning as these individuals are guaranteed to be targets. if they are not already, but those who wish to receive power and control, now the old adage goes not all heroes where capes. and while i think it is good things to have those individuals in the public, i actively known for pushing back against tyranny. there are so many is our panel pointed out behind the scenes who are fighting, but they're doing so through the choices they are making. was hard to gauge. those individuals are, it is their existence which is going to be the most effective and secure in the future. it is this group of teachers, dr. small business owners. and they're like, we're going to save the world from ultimate control by the. busy lead or at the
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